I was reminded a couple weeks ago how Jesus doesn't answer Mary and Martha's prayer to come before Lazarus dies. He waits until he's dead (which twists our theology). He finally shows up, Martha comes out and says, "Lord, had you been here my brother would not have died." Jesus explains he will rise again, Martha says she knows he will rise on the resurrection day. Jesus explains that He is the resurrection. Then Martha leaves to get Mary.
The scripture says Jesus waited. He did not move from that place!
Martha comes to the house where Mary and friends are mourning Lazarus' death. Martha tells Mary that the Master wants to see her (which we don't know if Jesus actually said this, maybe Martha wasn't getting the results she wanted).
Mary runs out to meet Jesus (the house follows); she falls at His feet and says, "Lord, had you been here my brother would not have died." Martha and Mary say the exact same thing, word for word! Yet Martha moved Jesus to an intellectual conversation about the resurrection (who happened to be standing in front of her) and Mary moves Jesus to say, "Let's go raise the dead!"
Both women had a relationship with Jesus but one met Jesus and wanted to talk about the resurrection and the other wanted The Resurrection. One didn't fully grasp there was more Jesus was attempting to reveal in his conversing and the other grasped fully the revealed Jesus. One came to Jesus alone; the other brought a house full to His feet. One was concerned Lazarus would stink and the other wanted him alive. One still served lunch at Lazarus' "dead raising party" while the other poured $40,000 worth of perfume over Jesus' feet.
We all come to Jesus at the same place just not the same way! If our "coming" only brings conversations and not The Resurrection then let's get out the perfume and not worry if it stinks!
Heath
Wednesday, January 21, 2009
Friday, January 16, 2009
Thursday, January 15, 2009
A Little Rhyme
While driving to work this morning a rhyme came to my mind.
Gas is going up
We're all going broke
We don't know what's coming
But the Anti-christ is stoked.
Ok, ok don't quit my day job, I know.
Heath
Gas is going up
We're all going broke
We don't know what's coming
But the Anti-christ is stoked.
Ok, ok don't quit my day job, I know.
Heath
Wednesday, January 14, 2009
What about Medicine?
A buddy asked me a great question that I thought many others are pondering.
"If you have time, I’d love to hear your thoughts on it. If a closed ear or back pain (etc, etc) is a spiritual issue (sin / enemy, etc), how is it that medicine sometimes heals those things (w/o prayer, etc)? Does this imply that sometimes it’s not a spiritual issue/problem but a physiological problem?"
Great question. My quick thoughts on that are this.
There are supernatural laws and natural laws. The natural law works and can be effective until a greater law comes. For example, the law of gravity is very real unless the law of flight collides with it. So medicine (which I think is great) works until a greater law (supernatural) supersedes it. So people can be cured by natural medicine but a more REAL truth is that supernatural healing supersedes. It also makes me wonder if medicine is more spiritual then we think. It is in places like Africa. Maybe we have been deceived here in the Western world and divided the two when in reality they co-exist.
The reason we have sickness and pain is the result of sin (you know that). What I am not saying is that someone’s pain/sickness is from their sin (though it could be at times). Rather we live in a spiritually dead world and the results only, always bring death/sickness/sin. When we pray for healing there are physical things happening (ears opening) but it is helpful for me to remember that was not the original intent from God (and we can change it b/c he has given his Bride the authority).
We were created Spirit beings that would never die. Spiritual death brought sin and sickness. And Jesus destroyed that on the Cross, we believe and receive. We now through Christ will never die, because we are spirit beings. We have bought into the idea that we are first physical and then spiritual, scripture is clear on that though. This body is only a container of who we are, spirit. That is why the spirit is dead (who we were truly meant to be) and we attempt to "live" from our soul, until the truth is revealed and our Spirit is born again (it was first born into death and now born again unto LIFE).
Physiological problem? Yes, the mind. Don't be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. That is why it is so important to meditate on the Word. IT is truth not what we are feeling or believing.
For example this is why I don’t believe counseling works. The truth is that Jesus says we are dead and everything has been made NEW! Old is gone, the flesh is dead. We are free, we must believe and walk in it even when the enemy comes and communicates something else. We don’t really believe Jesus has recreated us, because we don’t understand the reality of the enemy who is continually attacking our identity. Which he did to Jesus! But God confirms who Jesus is, “this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased.” Then he is led into the desert to be tempted.
We are new creations that live from the spiritual realm out so let's not allow the enemy to give us what the Lord has destroyed. The Gospel is power unto salvation, deliverance and healing.
Remember it is our faith that PLEASES Him!
Hope that answers some of your question. Please keep asking. Sorry I may have gone down a few rabbit trails.
Heath
Some responses from friends:
“Consider exploring the counseling thing a bit further. I believe you are right that it doesn't work to completely heal someone. But for some, I think it can help. It doesn't exactly heal; it's more like an emotional tourniquet until they are healed by God. In some ways, perhaps the counseling is more 'practice' on how to speak and listen. When someone is completely shut down and turned off, they can't (or won't) hear anyone. Sometimes including God. Sometimes the presence of a counselor gives the person 'permission' to begin to admit to the nasty things living inside them. But frequently counseling becomes an all-about-me-fest. It's up to the individual not to go there (or at least live there). I look at counseling like taking pain medicine. It may help lessen the symptoms to help you think more clearly about how to treat the cause - but it isn't a cure unto itself. ...and be careful you don't become an addict.”
“Some thoughts about Meds.
Meds only cover the symptom, not the issue. The issue is Evil, and no med can remove it. That is the part of any sickness or disease or Ungodly thing.
Some times it helps because it gets our mind off of the pain or ill feeling or fear, but only by deadening our senses. Hence when we focus on our “pain” (or sin for that matter of fact) we allow it to win the affection of our heart and we “trust in it”.
“You (Lord) will keep in perfect peace (Shalom) the mind that is fixed on you, because he trusts in you.”
Mind is fixed on what I am trusting in! So the deadening of our senses will allow a respite of the symptom and allow sleep or work or rest or even a chance to focus on the praise of our Lord!
The deadening of our senses is not a good thing over all as I believe God uses our senses to communicate with us. Thus “Pharmacia”, or witchcraft style potions and concoctions are to do just that, deaden our communication with the Father. I have turned to prayer after taking certain drugs, but have also found they get in the way of my communion with God, so I try not to take them.
I still use meds, but I have learned to trust God more by seeing what they do to me spiritually.
Theses are just my opinions, non scriptural, but experiential.”
"If you have time, I’d love to hear your thoughts on it. If a closed ear or back pain (etc, etc) is a spiritual issue (sin / enemy, etc), how is it that medicine sometimes heals those things (w/o prayer, etc)? Does this imply that sometimes it’s not a spiritual issue/problem but a physiological problem?"
Great question. My quick thoughts on that are this.
There are supernatural laws and natural laws. The natural law works and can be effective until a greater law comes. For example, the law of gravity is very real unless the law of flight collides with it. So medicine (which I think is great) works until a greater law (supernatural) supersedes it. So people can be cured by natural medicine but a more REAL truth is that supernatural healing supersedes. It also makes me wonder if medicine is more spiritual then we think. It is in places like Africa. Maybe we have been deceived here in the Western world and divided the two when in reality they co-exist.
The reason we have sickness and pain is the result of sin (you know that). What I am not saying is that someone’s pain/sickness is from their sin (though it could be at times). Rather we live in a spiritually dead world and the results only, always bring death/sickness/sin. When we pray for healing there are physical things happening (ears opening) but it is helpful for me to remember that was not the original intent from God (and we can change it b/c he has given his Bride the authority).
We were created Spirit beings that would never die. Spiritual death brought sin and sickness. And Jesus destroyed that on the Cross, we believe and receive. We now through Christ will never die, because we are spirit beings. We have bought into the idea that we are first physical and then spiritual, scripture is clear on that though. This body is only a container of who we are, spirit. That is why the spirit is dead (who we were truly meant to be) and we attempt to "live" from our soul, until the truth is revealed and our Spirit is born again (it was first born into death and now born again unto LIFE).
Physiological problem? Yes, the mind. Don't be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. That is why it is so important to meditate on the Word. IT is truth not what we are feeling or believing.
For example this is why I don’t believe counseling works. The truth is that Jesus says we are dead and everything has been made NEW! Old is gone, the flesh is dead. We are free, we must believe and walk in it even when the enemy comes and communicates something else. We don’t really believe Jesus has recreated us, because we don’t understand the reality of the enemy who is continually attacking our identity. Which he did to Jesus! But God confirms who Jesus is, “this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased.” Then he is led into the desert to be tempted.
We are new creations that live from the spiritual realm out so let's not allow the enemy to give us what the Lord has destroyed. The Gospel is power unto salvation, deliverance and healing.
Remember it is our faith that PLEASES Him!
Hope that answers some of your question. Please keep asking. Sorry I may have gone down a few rabbit trails.
Heath
Some responses from friends:
“Consider exploring the counseling thing a bit further. I believe you are right that it doesn't work to completely heal someone. But for some, I think it can help. It doesn't exactly heal; it's more like an emotional tourniquet until they are healed by God. In some ways, perhaps the counseling is more 'practice' on how to speak and listen. When someone is completely shut down and turned off, they can't (or won't) hear anyone. Sometimes including God. Sometimes the presence of a counselor gives the person 'permission' to begin to admit to the nasty things living inside them. But frequently counseling becomes an all-about-me-fest. It's up to the individual not to go there (or at least live there). I look at counseling like taking pain medicine. It may help lessen the symptoms to help you think more clearly about how to treat the cause - but it isn't a cure unto itself. ...and be careful you don't become an addict.”
“Some thoughts about Meds.
Meds only cover the symptom, not the issue. The issue is Evil, and no med can remove it. That is the part of any sickness or disease or Ungodly thing.
Some times it helps because it gets our mind off of the pain or ill feeling or fear, but only by deadening our senses. Hence when we focus on our “pain” (or sin for that matter of fact) we allow it to win the affection of our heart and we “trust in it”.
“You (Lord) will keep in perfect peace (Shalom) the mind that is fixed on you, because he trusts in you.”
Mind is fixed on what I am trusting in! So the deadening of our senses will allow a respite of the symptom and allow sleep or work or rest or even a chance to focus on the praise of our Lord!
The deadening of our senses is not a good thing over all as I believe God uses our senses to communicate with us. Thus “Pharmacia”, or witchcraft style potions and concoctions are to do just that, deaden our communication with the Father. I have turned to prayer after taking certain drugs, but have also found they get in the way of my communion with God, so I try not to take them.
I still use meds, but I have learned to trust God more by seeing what they do to me spiritually.
Theses are just my opinions, non scriptural, but experiential.”
Tuesday, January 13, 2009
My perspective on Healing
After sending out the last update I received an email asking me to pray for an individual. Which I will of course, but it is more fun if you get to. So I have put together a quick reference card :) on my view of healing. I will better it later but some of you don't have time, people are sick.
If we all believe what Christ has for his Bride then we don't need specialist.
A simple straight forward version, I typed out over lunch.
First, I believe it is the Lords will to always heal. Not everyone is healed, but I do believe it is his will. Just like it is his will that "none should perish but all come to repentance", though not all do, but that is his will.
Second, God has allowed Satan to control this world (1 John 5:19). Adam and Eve gave over the control. That doesn't mean God's hands are tied behind his back b/c he defeated the enemy on the Cross (which is where we receive Salvation and Healing from, the second Adam "fixed" what the first Adam destroyed) it is now our role (the Bride who co-labor with Christ) to make on earth what is a reality in the Heavens. "My will on earth as it is in Heaven"
Third, God has given us all power and authority to push back the darkness and bring his Kingdom.
Fourth, the thief kills, steals and destroys. So when I pray for someone, I am not asking what is God's will (I believe Scripture is clear on what he desires, this is different then asking God for wisdom or insight into the situation) I am commanding (in Christ) the enemy (and his effects, back pain, sickness, etc.) to move/be gone/let go (how ever you want to say it).
Fifth, If I see things as spiritual and not physical the battle becomes much easier. We can open deaf ears because it is the result of sin and the enemy, not God. I see it as telling the demon to leave/move, get off their ear!
Six, It is believing what the Lord has said, despite our circumstances. It is so easy that non-Christians can perform miracles, prophecy and cast out demons (Matt 7) it takes faith. But we can do it and have relationship so we don't end up in hell. Praise the Lord.
Hope that gives some perspective. Pray with confidence b/c you know Jesus (he knows you) and he has disarmed the enemy.
Heath
If we all believe what Christ has for his Bride then we don't need specialist.
A simple straight forward version, I typed out over lunch.
First, I believe it is the Lords will to always heal. Not everyone is healed, but I do believe it is his will. Just like it is his will that "none should perish but all come to repentance", though not all do, but that is his will.
Second, God has allowed Satan to control this world (1 John 5:19). Adam and Eve gave over the control. That doesn't mean God's hands are tied behind his back b/c he defeated the enemy on the Cross (which is where we receive Salvation and Healing from, the second Adam "fixed" what the first Adam destroyed) it is now our role (the Bride who co-labor with Christ) to make on earth what is a reality in the Heavens. "My will on earth as it is in Heaven"
Third, God has given us all power and authority to push back the darkness and bring his Kingdom.
Fourth, the thief kills, steals and destroys. So when I pray for someone, I am not asking what is God's will (I believe Scripture is clear on what he desires, this is different then asking God for wisdom or insight into the situation) I am commanding (in Christ) the enemy (and his effects, back pain, sickness, etc.) to move/be gone/let go (how ever you want to say it).
Fifth, If I see things as spiritual and not physical the battle becomes much easier. We can open deaf ears because it is the result of sin and the enemy, not God. I see it as telling the demon to leave/move, get off their ear!
Six, It is believing what the Lord has said, despite our circumstances. It is so easy that non-Christians can perform miracles, prophecy and cast out demons (Matt 7) it takes faith. But we can do it and have relationship so we don't end up in hell. Praise the Lord.
Hope that gives some perspective. Pray with confidence b/c you know Jesus (he knows you) and he has disarmed the enemy.
Heath
Monday, January 12, 2009
God is moving or are we finally moving with God?
I know it has been to long since the last update but here is a little something.
Someone made a list of all that has happened at our Tuesday night meetings within the last 6 months or so. I thought you would like to know about them.
I have omitted names where it would be to personal (except for healings).
"Worship God. For the essence of prophecy is to give clear witness for Jesus." Rev. 19:10
1) Rose’s shoulder healed (China) after Scott’s vision (USA)
2) Scott’s knee healed after 17 years of pain
3) Cathy’s shoulder healed
4) Beginning of a healed marriage
5) Father/Son reconciliation started
6) Mike’s elbows healed (“spirit of stupid” broken off!)
7) A fathers conversion to Christ (or reaffirmation) before death
8) Mike’s knees healed after months of continual ache
9) Kelly’s elbow healed
10) Robert’s skin cancer healed (down payment for his Dad’s healing!)
11) A daughter reconciled with her parents (vision of red tractor & palm trees)
12) Grandma Irene’s back pain healed & she sleeps through the night for 1st time in months
13) A ladies relief from depression
14) Kelly’s migraine headache healed (spiritual battle)
15) A couples financial miracle in the “nick of time”
16) Confirmation of a young ladies call to the ministry
17) Spirit of rejection broken off
18) Spirit of foreboding broken off
19) Spirit of condemnation broken off
20) Glenn healed of Leukemia/kidney failure (“completely reversed” w/ “help”)
21) “Bonking ball” (glory of God) heals Kelly’s back in the night (she thought it was a dream)
22) A lady steps over the chain (prophetic word)
23) A young ladies “encounter” with God
24) Scott’s vision of young lady (above) w/ suitcase @ Bethel
25) Young lady (above) deliverance from worry
26) Young lady (above) series of miraculous provision (new life, housing, Bethel, etc.)
27) Prophesies over young couple (amazing)
28) Crystal’s grandma’s living situation including house selling in 1 day
29) A woman’s daughter’s engagement broken
30) A woman’s (above) son’s surgery successful
31) Prophesies over a couple (also amazing)
32) Couple (above) financial/legal court case resolved in their favor (as prophesied)
33) Emie’s back pain relieved
34) A husbands interest in spiritual things revived
35) Spiritual battle over a fathers funeral resolved by the Lord
36) Emie’s vision (call) to live with Georges while in Africa (God’s provision)
37) God provides the Locke’s with special deal on rental house!
38) Knee injury reversed after lady falls in Wal-Mart
39) A fathers relationship with his kids improving as prayed for
40) Mike’s brush pile healing w/ Ben, start of reconciliation w/ friend
41) A families “awful bill”-$ arrived to pay
Blessings
Heath
Someone made a list of all that has happened at our Tuesday night meetings within the last 6 months or so. I thought you would like to know about them.
I have omitted names where it would be to personal (except for healings).
"Worship God. For the essence of prophecy is to give clear witness for Jesus." Rev. 19:10
1) Rose’s shoulder healed (China) after Scott’s vision (USA)
2) Scott’s knee healed after 17 years of pain
3) Cathy’s shoulder healed
4) Beginning of a healed marriage
5) Father/Son reconciliation started
6) Mike’s elbows healed (“spirit of stupid” broken off!)
7) A fathers conversion to Christ (or reaffirmation) before death
8) Mike’s knees healed after months of continual ache
9) Kelly’s elbow healed
10) Robert’s skin cancer healed (down payment for his Dad’s healing!)
11) A daughter reconciled with her parents (vision of red tractor & palm trees)
12) Grandma Irene’s back pain healed & she sleeps through the night for 1st time in months
13) A ladies relief from depression
14) Kelly’s migraine headache healed (spiritual battle)
15) A couples financial miracle in the “nick of time”
16) Confirmation of a young ladies call to the ministry
17) Spirit of rejection broken off
18) Spirit of foreboding broken off
19) Spirit of condemnation broken off
20) Glenn healed of Leukemia/kidney failure (“completely reversed” w/ “help”)
21) “Bonking ball” (glory of God) heals Kelly’s back in the night (she thought it was a dream)
22) A lady steps over the chain (prophetic word)
23) A young ladies “encounter” with God
24) Scott’s vision of young lady (above) w/ suitcase @ Bethel
25) Young lady (above) deliverance from worry
26) Young lady (above) series of miraculous provision (new life, housing, Bethel, etc.)
27) Prophesies over young couple (amazing)
28) Crystal’s grandma’s living situation including house selling in 1 day
29) A woman’s daughter’s engagement broken
30) A woman’s (above) son’s surgery successful
31) Prophesies over a couple (also amazing)
32) Couple (above) financial/legal court case resolved in their favor (as prophesied)
33) Emie’s back pain relieved
34) A husbands interest in spiritual things revived
35) Spiritual battle over a fathers funeral resolved by the Lord
36) Emie’s vision (call) to live with Georges while in Africa (God’s provision)
37) God provides the Locke’s with special deal on rental house!
38) Knee injury reversed after lady falls in Wal-Mart
39) A fathers relationship with his kids improving as prayed for
40) Mike’s brush pile healing w/ Ben, start of reconciliation w/ friend
41) A families “awful bill”-$ arrived to pay
Blessings
Heath
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